Kerr says: "We had one of our biggest fights ever. Everyone else left the room. The jacket was coming off — it was serious."

The huge argument was over a version of the track Sense of Discovery Burchill did not like. He explains: "Charlie is so polite and tries hard not to be negative. He really didn’t want to disappoint me. But, piping up at the last minute it's then 'Whoahhhhhh' and it all kicked off. Afterwards, I went outside and a big Glaswegian guy said, 'I've not heard a fight like that in years.'"

After working out their differences, the pair made up and the track closes the album. The singer adds: "It's Charlie's favourite track now."

"That night I went home and felt embarrassed at some of the stuff I’d said. But then I started laughing, as it showed how passionate I was about that song — how passionate we both still are about Simple Minds."

Up Close With Simple Minds
The Sun
8th February 2018

JK: We are getting a great reaction from those songs, but you always get someone saying, "I heard about those songs years ago, they're old songs you are churning out." And I'm like, "Hang on a minute you dick." (Laughs) It’s excellent when songs announce themselves, and they just come and go. The song Magic, for instance, was always pretty much there, but sometimes something is missing, and you don’t know what it is, Sense of Discovery was the same. Sometimes the language of the song doesn’t feel right for the times, or there are times when you hear the song later through different ears, and you think it feels right now."

MM:: The final track on the album, Sense of Discovery features a melodic refrain from one of your biggest hits Alive and Kicking. Was there a particular reason for this?

JK: I was driving everyone mental because the version we had the arrangement of was pretty much the same arrangement as we had way back in the Lostboy era. Everyone liked it, and they were saying, "what is the problem? It's great, can we move on?" And I was saying, "No, something is missing." But I couldn’t articulate what it was. While we were stripping the track down one day, I listened to this guitar part that Charlie was playing underneath a load of other guitars. It had this prominent rhythm which was precisely the thing I had in my mind and lo-and-behold I was able to then demonstrate it, and it became the last piece of the jigsaw."

Jim Kerr and Mark Millar
xsnoize.com
January 2018

Jim Kerr
Walk Between Worlds EPK
February 2018

AW: "That part from Jim just felt really natural – and I think he was quoted somewhere as saying it was like trying on an old coat – finding that it still fits, and there’s something kind of right about it. The song is another Owen Parker co-write, and had quite a journey – but in the end the version we went with has had an amazing reception – and looks set to be another radio hit."

Andy Wright and Gavin Goldberg
Producers Interview
March 2018