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johnny and the self abusers: 2 tracks
tracks
1. Saints And Sinners [Demo](1:50)
2. Dead Vandals [Demo](4:00)


recording date
July 16th 1977


line-up
Johnny And The Self Abusers


producer
Johnny And The Self Abusers


studio
Unknown


additional information
Alfred Bos documented a five track demo tape being cut by Johnny And The Self Abusers in the early part of 1977. (Probably late March or early April 1977). However, given that the other three songs have never surfaced, and that Jim mentioned a two track demo being recorded, then this track listing is more likely.

According to Alfred Bos, it was financed by John Milarky's parents. Jim has further muddied the waters claiming that it was either Brian McGee's parents, or the band themselves.

It cost 60 to record.

Brian Hogg sent cassettes of these demos to Stiff and Chiswick, and it was the later company who signed the band.

The songs on the single were lifted directly from this tape.





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